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thanh
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:45 am    Post subject: Pentatonic to Major Reply with quote

Hi! Very Happy

I want to tune my Guzheng to a pentatonic scale but every time i try to tune it the strings are getting broken. Can someone help me how to tune it?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guzheng is standard tuned in pentatonic scale.

Do you mean tune it to a diatonic scale?
If so, you need the diatonic scale strings.
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thanh
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yukina wrote:
Guzheng is standard tuned in pentatonic scale.

Do you mean tune it to a diatonic scale?
If so, you need the diatonic scale strings.



Yes i meant diatonic scale. Embarassed

Oh really? I didn't know that we need other strings for that. But if i change all the strings to the diatonic scale strings, can i still tune it to the pentatonic scale?

How much does the diatonic scale strings cost?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pentatonic scale covers 4octaves, and the diatonic scale only covers 3 octaves. The string gauges are different. You can't interchange between the diatonic scale and the pentatonic scale.
You can only do a section in diatonic and the rest in pentatonic if you don't want to change the strings.
The diatonic scale string is $59 a set.
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thanh
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yukina wrote:
Pentatonic scale covers 4octaves, and the diatonic scale only covers 3 octaves. The string gauges are different. You can't interchange between the diatonic scale and the pentatonic scale.
You can only do a section in diatonic and the rest in pentatonic if you don't want to change the strings.
The diatonic scale string is $59 a set.


Ok, thanks for that helpful reply! Very Happy
I think I just let my Guzheng in the pentatonic scale right now Smile
When i buy an another Guzheng I'll tune it into the diatonic scale.

Thanks for help me Carol! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:49 am    Post subject: For over 12 years... Reply with quote

I've been tuning and retuning before and during on the fly performances between pentatonic, diatonic and semi-chromatic tunings on my zhengs for over 12 years once I discovered how to do it properly.

The difference in gauge strings is helpful for sure because with regular pentatonic strings you lose some tonal qualities and instrument becomes more gayagum or harp sounding.

Something to keep in mind, when you do tune diatonic/semi-chromatic, you must make an important decision, do you want a slightly higher register or slightly more mid register or slightly lower even. Your bridges will be positioned much closer together. It definitely requires a few years to find the sweet spot with tuning the zheng in all sorts of arrangements, when you don't have someone there showing you how.

Good luck, breaking strings is the same is breaking my heart.
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