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yukina
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They sound different because the playing methods are different. The way you pluck and the angle you pluck affect the sound.
I have Mongolian customers who bought my kayagum, and they told me that's the instrument they used. I think the Yatag was lost in Mongolia, and a few decades ago, they hired kayagum players from Korea to teach them, and have been using kayagum since.
The string is made of silk.

As you can see from most videos, they either use a kayagum or a guzheng with Mongolian style plucking. When you pluck with your bare finger and some nail upward on the guzheng or kayagum, you will make the sound like the yatag videos. That gives a brighter sound than the kayagum pluck. We pluck kayagum string outward with bare finger and no nail.

The last link is kayagum from North Korea. The string is made of nylon-wrapped-steel. It's similar to the guzheng string, but the steel/nylon proportion is different. The North korean kayagum has thinner steel inside and thicker nylon wrap to make a duller sounding than the guzheng.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry piglittle, I see I kind of hijacked your thread. Embarassed

So your Guqin friends love silk string!
And you've met John Thompson! Very Happy
Very cool!
I'm just a very music picky collage student. Laughing
It's kind of not the best because I have trouble enjoying most music.
But-- when I do find the right music I fall in love with it!

Glad to hear people still appreciate silk string! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for all the silk string info!
I just tried the silk kayagum strings on my guzheng yesterday!
Had a lot of fun with the sound! Very Happy
Yeah it's not as loud, but it's so gentle and subtle . . .
(I also found it much easier to tune by ear for some reason.)
I'm glad I tried them and am very pleased with the sound. Smile
My only concern is about the strings wearing down and breaking.
Here's my vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guin7R5VBp4

(I already started growing a paulownia tree in my backyard, now all I need are some silkworms and a mulberry tree . . . Laughing)
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, thanks for sharing! That's interesting.

I also put kayagum strings on a scarlet bird guzheng and made a scarlet bird kayagum. I put the nylon strings though. The ones that are on 25-string kayagum. I was afraid to break the silk.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The material is the difference. Kayagum is made of paulownia, yatah is made of birch or/and pinewood.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have resolved to make silk strings. I have alredy bought 12 silkworms. They buyable in petshops for feeding lizards. I should just give them leaves of morus alba. I alredy have 6 cubs. Tese are yellow cubs. I have heard that there are stronger, and thicker species of silkworm, which give more strong and wear resisntant silk. Perhaps that is the yellow silk, I'm not sure. This kind of silk maybe more suitable for strings. In Hungary we call it in loan translaion "wild silk" because these silkworms are more though. According to a gossip, they are outbacks, but I dont believe it.
One cub gives 1/7 gram silk, which is some 1000 metres long. 4-16 cubs give 1 yarn. I will spin them. I will have some 1-2 gram silk, perhaps it will be enough for 1 string, I don't know, it will turn out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck! Let us know how it goes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would show photos to you, if I could how can I upload here, or where?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

applevinegar wrote:
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Here's my vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guin7R5VBp4

(I already started growing a paulownia tree in my backyard, now all I need are some silkworms and a mulberry tree . . . Laughing)


Youtube respons me that "this video is private"
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